Chip, The people with short attention spans want this thread to be over, and frankly so do I because nothing bothers me more than to read "enough already" messages. I've already addressed everything you say here, probably several times over. The things you mention are the reason that I was willing t...

Newsflash to list: Having mismatched chassis and plate numbers is not desirable. It's not a 'point of originality.' It's not an interesting custom feature.

It's a careless mistake.

Mark
TC 3409

And the right way in this case is to convince Mrs. Meismer that her purported "TC 3409" should be renumbered on the plate and in the paperwork to the chassis number. That makes her car more correct, and legal, and it frees up the legal status of my frame.

Anything else is a botch.

Mark
TC 3409

In the past 12 hours I've been advised to: 1. Grind the number off my frame 2. Fill the number in with bondo 3. Buy Mrs. Meismer's car 4. Pick a number any number 5. Stop acting like Badger 6. Take the car to Mongolia, title it there, and then reimport it into the U.S. And with all this advice to si...

I don't know how it is in the stable craton of North America, but here in the borderlands, the INS occasionally checks to see that all the numbers of a vehicle match. And they know where to look.

Mark
TC whatever

... and Gentlewomen. They're just cars.

Mark

On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:41 AM, Chip Old wrote: Does it really matter what its chassis number is, especally since the bare chassis is all you have from TC 3409? It matters a little, since I was informed by members of this list that by purchasing a bare chassis, I would have the number and therefore, in...

On Dec 6, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Murray Arundell wrote: In any case fudge a legitimate car ID and what you are left with is nothing different. There are really two different questions going on here. One is the legal status of my ownership of TC 3409. That's settled. I own TC 3409, and when it comes time...

Make that MMMCDIX. I was counting on my fingers and toes.

On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Ray (1939mgtb) wrote: we have it solved......... In the technical sense, maybe. The intangibles are another matter. TC 3409 has a history, some of which was recorded in the list archives. It came from Sarasota, FL. It had a clunk at one point. The badge bar got whacked b...

On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:08 PM, D&J Edgar quoted R. Meismer who wrote: I sure am glad that my TC number is out in the middle(3409) and no one cares if I cut it in half and make two cars. If I did that what number would the back half be? David, This is a very telling message from Rolland. It's starting ...

In that case, my frame is like the postage stamp with the Curtiss Jenny flying upside down. I can sell it, buy a perfect restored TC with the proceeds, drive on the tour of the Flint Hills this year, and buy everyone a round. Mark TC 3409a On Dec 6, 2005, at 7:20 AM, BDavis wrote: Conclusion: Two TC...

Notice also that the "C" is significantly bigger than the "T". These were probably two different sets of stamps, mixed together. Maybe the original zero and one of the letters "went to war," like the green ink on packs of Lucky Strikes. Mark TC 3409a Well I'll be. I just went out to look at my frame...

Bringing everyone up to date: in late October I purchased a frame through ebay. Due to some minor missteps, it has taken about five weeks to get the frame from Chicago to San Diego. When I announced the purchase on this list as frame number TC 3409, I heard at once from Mrs. Alma Meismer, who wrote ...

Wire brush elimates the "zero is an eight" theory. In two sources of light: http://www.ocotillofield.net/TCproject/3409a.jpg and http://www.ocotillofield.net/TCproject/3409b.jpg It looks more light a nine than any other number, but is it a definitive nine? Did frame stamped nines look like this? Mar...

I took delivery of my frame in the parking lot the TA truck center in Ontario, CA, and drove it the last hour home. The five-week saga is almost over; now I just have to identify the number. Here's a photo: http://www.ocotillofield.net/TCproject/3489.jpg The zero in "3409" might be an eight: 3489. O...

Works for me Bob. I think it actually makes the whole business more interesting. (I hope no one regards the above as just "mmm hmm.") On Nov 2, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Bob Grunau wrote: As Terry, and others have said, it is not unusual to have ownerships, data plates and chassis numbers mixed up on old MG...

Thanks Dave, Charles, and Terry, for speculations on the TC3409 discrepancy, one of which -- or all of which! -- may be correct. Terry's is especially convincing to me, having tried to authenticate products from a certain software company in Washington state that thinks it's cute to use an old compu...

I have no reason to doubt your word, Mrs. Meismer. I do not have any reason to doubt the word of the person who sold me the frame, either. It isn't in my possession yet, so I am a little perplexed, but not too much. There is an explanation for the discrepancy, and it will be worked out in due course...

No, Sherwood, and please do.

Mark,

You are aware of the upcoming gigondo swap meet for english stuff in Nov?

if not we will get you up to speed.