Best oil to use in TC back axle

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Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by timandgerda » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:19 pm

Hi all - I have a question regarding the oil to use in my TC back axle. I have had to install a Morris Minor van crown wheel and pinion (4.55:1) with the rest of the axle being original TC (this due to damage to my original axle found during restoration work). Should I be using 140 oil as per the manual or is EP90 more appropriate for the Morris parts? Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers. Tim.

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Re: Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by Steve Simmons » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:46 pm

I would use the oil recommended for the Morris, since the gears are the critical item to lubricate properly.
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Re: Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by Ray White » Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:03 am

Hi Tim.

You will need EP 80W/90 gear oil in the Morris Minor axle.

Incidentally, by using that ratio, you will notice a reduction in revs per gear compared with the original TC diff ...at the expense of slightly slower acceleration. It should, however, help extend the life of the XPAG engine.

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Re: Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by ROGER FURNEAUX » Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:48 am

hi Tim - you could have come to me for your diff. - I have every part! But your MM diff would have been cheaper, albeit non-original.

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Re: Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by timandgerda » Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:46 am

Thanks all
Steve - your thinking was the same as mine but nice to have a sanity check!
Ray - I went for the 4.55 ratio for that very reason. I chose the van version as the oil filler is similar to the TC arrangement i.e. at the front - I understand that cars had the filler in the rear cover plate but cant confirm this. In order to make the Morris unit fit (bring the half shafts into line) I had to machine a significant amount of material off the the flange. This being aluminium I was concerned about the strength so had a washer cut out of stainless steel to sit over this and sandwich the flange in position. Before I retired I had access to a water jet machine and this really helped!
Roger - I have been working on this project for some years now and at the time of the modification you were waiting for a new batch of parts. Rest assured that if my repair/modification is unsuccessful I will be making a trip to Cornwall!
Thanks again everyone for you kind assistance. :bow:
Cheers. Tim

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Re: Best oil to use in TC back axle

Post by Duncan M » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:09 pm

Ray-
Another way of looking at it is that with the 4.5:1 you will need to spin the engine faster to keep up with a factory equipped 5.125:1 around town and off the line.

Back in the day (and today) people used the 1/2 inch wider, and taller (30" overall dia.) Ford Model A tires on TC's. The A tires are as wide as you can go with stock rear fenders. If I recall the numbers, such a switch from smaller to larger diameter tires on a stock TC will accomplish the same thing as going to 4.5 or 4.6:1. Approximately a 400RPM drop at 60MPH. The overall dia. of your tires are an integral part of your gear set.

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