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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:27 am

both sides are finished
but I think I will design the rear side window a little differently
I will do it in one piece
at first i thought it might be difficult to get into the car
but it is not
the front window will be a sliding window so you can let some air in
then i tried to make the lower bead
I thought about various possibilities but somehow it all came to nothing.
if I want to make the roof with artificial leather, I should be able to remove this bead
so now I have a 4 cm wide piece of wood at the back and on the side, which I attach to the hardtop with a drive-in nut, I can't get the wood to bend like that in the corner, I'll use carbon there
I will then make the bead with a split pipe insulation which I will then coat with carbon
that's the plan
but first it's Christmas
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:19 am

yesterday morning I made the border
as you can see
some pieces of plywood sharpened at the end where the coal starts
attached to the hardtop with screws and drive-in nuts
I then made the corners with 4 layers of carbon and epoxy
not knowing if this can hold
but there is no load on it, at least when it is fixed
if i cover the roof with leatherette then i can fix the leatherette there without it being visible
this morning i took off the hardtop and glued on the foam half shell with construction foam
I had great experiences with it, it holds bombproof and costs almost nothing
it is also quick to work with, it only takes 2 hours until it is firm
have to grind a little bit before i can start with the next Step
i can make one ore two layers with carbon, then it is hard
also i can take leatherette and then it is smoth and it will not damage when i take the hartop off

taken it off and the corners are so hard, happy with the result
had grind it too
will order some cheap leatherette to make a template for the leatherette i will take later
again a really important step
will it work that was the question before
yes it has
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:48 am

after a visit to the family in Aachen
my wife's ma is 97 years old
now back at home
had tested my own epoxy cream on one side
and it works perfectly
I sanded the hardtop with a long wood
then a layer with epoxy + microballoons and thixotropi
only about 70 gr
I will see how it looks after the next sanding
now I have to wait until tomorrow
maybe the leatherette will come too
in the moment it is warm outside 12 degrees, so my garage is warm enough without a heater
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:27 am

still waiting for the next parts
Taking the time to fill some holes with epoxy cream
I bought this before Christmas
there was a groove in the back of the roof
about 700 mm x 100 mm and maximum 2 mm deep
now it will be good
when I do something like this I will be more careful
never mind, about 100 gr of filler
funny
when I opened the box I saw red hardener
now I am happy with this color because you can see the carbon when sanding
for each step I have to wait 24 hours ...
so I am slow at the moment
one more layer with the red cream, then with gray spray filler
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:42 am

While I wait, I tried to make the frame of the rear side window with aluminum U-profiles
to prevent the u-profile from deforming completely i clamped it in wood and then hit it down with a hammer so the side walls of the u-profile remained as they were before
like this it works
with a professional tool it may be easyer
but like this it was able to do it too
will sold it togehter later wen
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:31 pm

last post this year

i will finish it next year (2024)
:X
but
thats not to long
Sorry shipping was always too long

good new year,
for me only 3 hours

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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:28 am

now i have 3 layers of filler
after each layer I sanded a little
but after spraying with ep primer filler
you can still see fine grooves
but now I can use polyester fine filler
it is easy to sand and dries much faster
unfortunately the EP primer hardener empty and has to be reordered

but it looks good for the moment
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:34 am

ast night my carport was a little damaged by the wind
so I had some work to do on the carport after work
then i took 20 minutes to grind the hardtop with watergrinding paper
now i can see the parts where i have some more work
not to much
after my work with the filler and the prime i have a weight of 8,9 kg
not to much i think

Anyone who has done a paint job knows why it is so expensive
so much work
Sanding filler
sanding filler
and so on

that from my work on day 25

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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:43 pm

sanded again after some filler
then I sprayed another layer of primer filler with my air gunsa

i hope tomorrow last round with filler and primer
i hope so
you see every little hole against the light
when i take black paint you will see it
with the leatherette i will be good enough now
but will make it so i have both ways open

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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:47 pm

Sometimes I'm a bit crazy
after the sanding this afternoon
thinking about priming again
or some black varnish
you can see what I used
as I'm always a bit short on patience and the lighting in the garage isn't perfect
I have produced some noses
but now I can see the places where some filler needs to be applied
not much but still
perhaps i only paint it, no leatherette ???
haven t sprayed 2 years
for that it is ok
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Re: MG TA1932 in Germany - Blog - all problems and ...

Post by Ray White » Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:15 am

With respect, I think your skills are better suited to a fabric finish. :)

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Post by PeterOH » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:11 am

Hi Franz
I am a recent owner of a 1936 MGTA and have just read your series of posts with some amazement! Well done and thank you.
Are you able to share your STL files ? Please
Many thanks

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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:55 am

Hi Peter, send me a private mail

yesterday I put the cheap leatherette with the wrong side on the car and tried to make a template
the fabric is not really elastic

but it was worth a try
after two hours of sewing with my hands I had made it
maybe this will work



after waiting two years for my old new sewing machine, I developed something for it
the first owner told me that it is very difficult to work slowly with it
so she sold it very cheaply
i made 2 additional lever arms to control the motor, so it now has a foot control that is much more sensitive
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:04 am

today we got some snow, so no more painting in my garage, it is to cold
so i gave the leatherette a chance

I took the pattern and sewed it with my new machine
after developing it works perfectly, so I could do it

then I took the leatherette and put it on the car
pulled here and there took some heat and then after more than 1 hour fixed here and there, the result is not quite perfect though
but I will leave it like this for now, put the window in the back and fix it to the b pillar, then finish the windows and and and

next week I'll get a few more leatherette samples

like this it looks good for the moment

forgotten to show it with the rear side window
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:42 pm

I had some problems with the new sewing machine
a sewkey 335A
almost solved it, sometimes losing the thread only to find it again
you need a quick eye to follow the needle, it needs some practice
here my first try
i will do it better next time but you can see what it will look like

today i thought
how can i fix the back side window securly
it should be easy to use also

i will use the fixing screw at the b pillar as we use it with the original side windows
this it not enough
i should have a fixing point at the top
the hardtop will perhaps move a little bit

i could make a 4 cm wide leatherette which is fixed inside the hardtop at the top from the front to the rear
there i could take tenax to fix the side window to the hardtop
easy to use and fast to fix

or i could take a 4 x 3 cm wide leatherette part with a tenax in the middle
if this not used i could fix it in the inside from the hardtop

perhaps in the middle from the front side window,
but if i forget it when i want to open the door
it will be bad

the back window i will fix when i get the tenax
the front i will fix after i have driven the car in March

also i have to think about the fixing point at the b pillar
so
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:42 am

Hello
I have found a solution for the rear side windows
I have sewn a black leatherette triangle
some foam underneath
I still had chrome cover strips that can be mounted concealed, so I can now attach the black leatherette without a seam or screws visible

i don t like the chrome with the aluminum, perhaps i paint the aluminium black
but for the moment it is ok
like this i can make both sides
still waiting for the back window frame

so step by step
I couldn't find any instructions on the web
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:21 am

here next step
you can see what i have done
like this it is good fixed to the side window
perhaps i have to make a different design for the rear side window
for the moment it is ok
got the parts (Tenax) to make the fixing point at the top to the inside of the hardtop
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:04 pm

have made it now 3 times,
now it is better
have to make a new one for the back on this side,
i will make it a little bit different

if you know how to do it it is easy
if you have no template it is difficult

now i can use my sewkey 355 as it should be
i had some trouble with it

the chrome part is now over the aluminum part, i think it is better like this
perhaps i will paint all aluminium parts black
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:27 am

cold in my garage
replaced the chrome on the rear window
also fixed the Tenax
so you can see how I will secure it to the hardtop
i hope you understand it

nearly not visible but effective
perhaps i will make the same for the front window, only in the back where the turrning point is

left side nearly ready, i only have to cut the window glas for the split pane

every time i go in my garage i am so happy to see the car with the hardtop on the way to be ready
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Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:50 am

there was a questing in mgexp
what is with the gap at the top of the door?

I'm going to make a piece of leatherette that reaches up to the top of the side window or 1cm below
in the original it is the gray part
but if you look to the original i can t see how the front side window it installed
it follows the line of the door
but what is at the front window there you can t see anything

The next few days

For this work I have to remove the hardtop
turn it round so I can work inside
I'm still waiting for the surround for the rear window

Today I made the second side window, grrr
small tight difficult ...

now i have all parts, now i can work at the finish
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