Grille Shell Lacing

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Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:55 pm

On a TA chrome grille shell, what material is used for the lacing through the holes around the edge?
Rubber? Woven web?
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Steve Simmons » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:43 pm

I'm not sure anyone ever solved this definitively. The general wisdom suggests that it was a rubberized woven canvas. Some claim that later TCs switched from this to rubber but I don't know if that's accurate. I believe the big pre-war saloons specified "rubber lacing" but again it's likely this was actually a woven material covered in rubber. I don't think you'll lose any points with one over another but I understand the pursuit of correctness. Canvas is likely more abrasive than rubber if that helps the decision.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Tom Wilson » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:27 am

All parts lists and build specifications (or, Spec 259 for TC) list rubber for the radiator shell buffer.
Factory photos of the period support this.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:45 am

Is this true for the TA?
I can't find anything about it in the 1936 MG 10 HP spec sheets.
I can't even find the grille.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Steve Simmons » Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:48 am

I would assume (dangerous I know) that it would be the same as the rest of the pre-war cars. The SA parts book does specify "rubber lacing" so whatever the SA had, I'm betting the TA had. I also suspect that if it were rubber coated canvas, the lacing would look just like solid rubber. One thing that comes to mind are the MGA/MGB rear axle rebound straps. Woven cloth covered in a thick rubber outer.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:18 pm

I don't even find lacing in the TC Spec 259, nor a grille.
I see 53865-Z Bonnet Body Protector - Rubber (quantity 4) on sheet 16, but those have to be the corner protectors on the bonnet.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by DMCFARLAND » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:58 pm

I'm reassembling the radiator/grille shell after having the radiator on my 55 TF 1500 repaired. Can anyone guide through the order of assembly, in particular the rubber lacing? I'm trying to determine how to install the lacing after the radiator and grill have been screwed together, since the lacing covers some of the screw heads. :?

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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:46 am

I have ordered some woven cloth lacing from Worcester Classic Spares, but have heard nothing from them, so I don't know if they are still operating.

Anyway, I'll offer a guess that TF is pretty much the same as TA. Where two holes are close together, the lacing goes through on the inside. Where two holes are far apart, the lacing comes up on the outside and spans the large gap, so it provides a cushion for the bonnet to rest on. Screw heads get covered by the lacing, unless they are between two holes that are close together. In the center the lacing goes under because there is a chrome clip screwed on there for the center bonnet hinge.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by SteveTC » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:29 am

I recently used "oil" (kerosene) lamp wick, as I did some 30 years ago for TC 0269.
Looks good!
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:32 am

That's a great idea! Amazon has it in 3/8" wide 6 foot rolls.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Tom Wilson » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:57 am

Rob, I like the look of lacing but tend to stay with originality - all the factory photos I've ever seen showing this piece show rubber. Be aware that the fabric type tends to abrade the bonnet paint where it contacts the bonnet over time. But wither will work . . .
And a 1949 factory photo is attached. There are also 1945, 1946, 1948, and prewar photos I have showing rubber lacing.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:30 pm

Do you have a pre-war photo?
Maybe of a TA if there is a choice.
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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Duncan M » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:37 pm

I've seen people use heavy canvas material, folded over (maybe ironed) and trimmed to the correct width. Black shoe polish would make it black. Lasts a few years, no doubt. May have been old cut up tonneau cover.. Looked like it belonged there, or at least not out of place.

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Re: Grille Shell Lacing

Post by Rob Reilly » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:57 pm

Here is what my 1950 Jaguar saloon had originally.
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And what it has now, sourced from Worcester Classic Spares in the UK.
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