TC identification

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Franz Tenbrock
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Re: TC identification

Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:47 am

Hallo
of course i am proud, it drives wunderful, the only problem was the fuel line,
today i take of the tank and wash it out, 100 times, dirt dirt dirt, no it is ok .
So i know now why the car doesn t run perfekt in the 4. more in another thread

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Re: TC identification

Post by Tom Lange, MGT Repair » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:58 am

If you have so much dirt I would (again) clean out the float bowls, which might have rust and sediment on the bottoms. You also have filters in each float bowl. Let us know if you need help.

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Re: TC identification

Post by Franz Tenbrock » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:32 pm

Hallo
see my other post
Fuel line
here
good progress i think
but i have to wait for some parts to complete it
then i will clean the carburretor
its not my profession so i have to read a lot before i do it
or see some videos

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Re: TC identification

Post by Franz Tenbrock » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:39 am

Hallo
today i clean the engine and paint as good as it is possible in the car.
and than i find on the left side the MG Octagon , behind the generator
so it is an MG Engine not an Morrit or Woolsey

and a Number stamped to the block

on the right side there is the palte with XPJMI

i have read a lot, but don t find good information
other drivers here has the same problem

perhaps the pictures helps a little bit
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Re: TC identification

Post by Tom Lange, MGT Repair » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:12 pm

Franz: The casting number 24445 shows that what you have is a later factory-exchange XPAG engine, with banana-shaped cooling passages, and NOT an XPJM engine from a Morris car. The tag could have come from anywhere, so I would ignore it.

Just above the brass plate is a small rectangular area, with the (original?) engine number stamped. Can you remove some of the paint and see what that number is?

For a long time it was cheaper and easier to replace the entire engine with a factory-exchange rebuilt unit, than it was to rebuild the engine. So, many TC and TD cars have these replacement engines rather than the original numbers-matching engine the car came with from the factory. These were just "old cars" for a long time, and nobody thought they would become important, collectible, or studied - engines were replaced so that the car could be driven to work, on holiday, and to school.

Your car is almost certainly a 1250cc engine that has been made more powerful with the addition of a Laystall-Lucas head, and other interesting modifications. Drive it! Ihr Wagen ist wirklich toll, und interessant!

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Re: TC identification

Post by Franz Tenbrock » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:11 pm

i love my car, so the work on it is wonderful
yesterday i paint the engine and found the information
it is a part of history
here an other part of the story

the new carpet i get in the next days shows how i love the car, i have just to cut it,
i orderd it in the internet, only 5 Minutes of work
it will look great

some more Information
over teh brass palte there is a number when i take away the colour
it is
15761
is it a original engine from an other mg tc?
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Re: TC identification

Post by Tom Lange, MGT Repair » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:25 pm

Franz - the only engine numbered 15761 that I can identify is XPAG/TD2/15761, originally in TD15383. That time-period matches your casting number of 24445. For what it's worth, that car is not listed in George Merson's TD list but many are not. I think it is safe to say that you have a 1250cc XPAG engine, removed from TD15383 and rebuilt as part of the factory/dealer exchange program, and then obtained from and/or installed by a dealer in your TC.

I am sure the XPJM tag is NOT the true engine you have in your car, and you can safely ignore it.

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Re: TC identification

Post by Franz Tenbrock » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:19 am

Hallo
with your information and the wonderful weather today
the first oldtimer rally over 100 km was great.

THX

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Re: TC identification

Post by Tom Lange, MGT Repair » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:05 am

Ich schreibe hier auch meine Privataddresse, fals Sie direkt schreiben wollen. Wie Sie vielleicht schon bemerkt haben, ich habe eine besondere Interesse fur solche Fragen!

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